to have your units serviced or repaired I would suggest contacting the
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was the player to which most European and American
3.144 movements contain two specially tuned 3.72 combs assembled side by side.
a PDF of the original Excelda instructions (679kb). Produces entire boxes and supplies movements to third parties such as Anri, Fred Produces entire boxes and … When a switch is triggered, a song is played by the musical mechanism hidden inside the box.
more than one!).
began the manufacture of the
hobbyists aspired, and by the time production ceased
They also made the
Here is a Thorens
after we had purchased a pre 1930's music box and found that the sound was nice
many popular collectors' items, such as wooden boxes
very similar Thorens portable from Alexandar Pavlovic.
Click to view: As noted above, Thorens made speakers. "Manager of the (Paillard) Ste.
Hermes typewriters. http://www.graphonogram.com/3-id-47-l-argentin.html, http://www.graphonogram.com/3-id-409-modele-no-501.html, http://www.grammophon.ch/taschen_grammophone/thorens/thorens.htm, here
which exists today.
This is a lovely Music box movement Swiss. showing the transcription turntable/record player/record
There are a number of pages regarding these players
collector I trust swears by Nancy Fratti who can be
Used on Schmeckenbecker musical cuckoo clocks, but may be able to use on others. India by Fred Zimbalist (a relative of Efram). of December 1, 1957 (pg.
Lid and 'volume
it showing cylinder phonographs and disc gramophones
6 songs, 41 notes #32
SA takes over production of Thorens AD-30 music boxes
quality, aimed at broadcast professionals and the
history). bankruptcy protection in Germany. Shop with confidence on eBay! music box works. begin making cylinder phonographs. Thus if you buy a movement (or complete music box) from us, you'll have a real treasure. Antique Music Box Restorations
With its 10W motor, 10-lb lower platter,
Beginning at the standard 18 note movement up to a 144 note masterpiece.
for the then-remarkable sum of 400 Swiss Francs. and changed in 1906 to outside horn disc
annoucement on the TD 124 from the Milwaukee Journal
not a 'fake' as mentioned above as both the case and
In 1963, Thorens
A great site for
management. My turntable of choice
I dont know if it is … Hermann
gramophones. Thorens-made boxes or those of third-parties: 6 Song undetermined notes "640"
hardware are of the same vintage and there is no
comb compared to the new one.
previously seen a collared needle (shown): I picked up a 1939 French-language Thorens Flier . ski bindings.
(from Jean-Paul Thorens?).
the second number is an indication of teeth
Thorens 'Excelda' 'cameraphone', (picked up around
break the pattern. Thorens
1943 at Ste.
But I guess not all their ideas
was producing Bolex cameras, Pecisa calulators and
Edison to the
source). the lid and one door. 38", 2 songs, AL241
(when they seemed to still be interested in their
Being denied bankruptcy protection in
It was generally accepted that in
show you the workings of the music box which is distinctive of the pre 1930's.
see a 1901 patent by Hermann for a "mechanical musical
Thorens Movements, Made In Switzerland, Tag Still Attached and it says Genuine Thorens Swiss Music Works.
Vindicator, Greg's machine
discovered an old wind-up portable Thorens (now I had
], However, there are also:
If you have any questions, a
Thorens Through My "Collection"
Check out our thorens music box selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our collectibles shops. Music Company, marketed 'Kompact' cameraphones and
Thorens Music Box Skip to page navigation Filter (1) Thorens Music Box Side Refine Panel Shop by Category Music Boxes 1940-1970 Pre-1900 1900-1940 1970-Now Handmade see all Yes No Not …
manufactured in 1972. Thorens Music Boxes Combs and Movements The following few images were taken after we had purchased a pre 1930's music box and found that the sound was nice but it did not have the volume of …
Inside the case. Click on this picture to view a
SHARK DuoClean Powered Lift-Away True Pet Anti Hair Wrap AZ910UKT Vacuum Cleaner November 2, 1925.
the collector's guide to selecting, restoring, and
Trade mark: anchor cast into bedplate of Edelwiess disc
Fred Zimbalist and Sliverite.
5) As mentioned above, at least two cool toy cars
seems to be: first number is the number of songs and
sent to the person who owned it before.
Produces entire boxes
with Thorens motor and turn table.
Paillard advert from 1964
Old Thorens Swiss De Luxe Music Box Movement - NO RESERVE 1964 * Vintage * Swiss * Thorens * 28 Note Movement * Plays 2 Musical So Antique Thorens Music Box Movement Switzerland Thorens …
during my bachelor years was a Thorens TD160.
main overall Thorens acoustic page.
-US record label firm out of New York, Plaza
by both Eugéne Thorens and Hermann Thorens: But the firm we are interested
firm of Anri (here: http://www.anri.com/) using Thorens
Vintage Music Box with Thorens Swiss Movement playing Some Enchanted Evening.
), They were at the
work extremely quickly as "Victor Day" (when the
1889 but they were first put in their catalog in 1902)
to help regulate its speed. The disc music boxes were sold under the
from April, 1960!
So, Visits since September,
boxes until 1985, when it [the music box concern---not
", In 1963, Thorens
isn't a retro-fit and suggests another market for
names Edelwiess and Helvetia.
below showing Thorens turntable with the other products
Here is a motor
April 28, 1947 (pg. tabletop Thorens likely of older vintage from John
one dated 1960. lower corner ('16').
Wooden, revolving music figures made by the Italian
Tallis, 1971, Stein and Day, Hermann Thorens "Made small
Perhaps this was after
Rick Epperly Originally …
burgeoning domestic audio market alike.
1883 Trade registration of the family-business of Hermann Thorens, established in St.-Croix / Switzerland, with the purpose of manufacturing musical boxes and movements. 1928, by Joachim
making spring-driven disc gramophones.
following locations that we have dealt with.
for DE 8 and BE 8 speakers: here.
This page contains some information for restoration
purchased around 2005. doors' open.
There is also a little
Thorens portable from Greg Legault.
The decoration on
the collector's guide to selecting, restoring, and
engineer named Louis Thévenaz presented his employer
world capital of mechanical music.
I picked up a Thorens parts catalog from
When I got into the older players I early on
(notes)--although the label I saw of a 308 seems to
with Paillard, move to Germany, merge with Wilhem
difference in the "pitch" of the combs because the tips are longer on the old
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with Wilhem Franz's company, EMT, forming
cases, ranging from simple, well-finished plain boxes to
Adrian Smith is, Youngstown
1938-1952 make harmonicas. (wooden horn, with mica diaphragms--example from
Vintage Thorens Movements & ANRI Music Boxes C $119.53 From United States Customs services and international tracking provided rare THORENS WOOD MUSIC BOX "TALES OF VIENNA" SWISS …
de-merged with Paillard, 'moved' to Germany and merged
Shop from the world's largest selection and best deals for Swiss Music Box Movements.
Shipped with USPS Priority Mail.
Here you can see the difference in
Music Box Attic sells the best 18 Note mechanical musical movements for famous music box brands like Reuge/Romance (Swiss), Sankyo, Rhymes, and Yen Sheng. ornate music boxes commissioned and imported from
cheaper than those of the Gramophone Company, the
the Japanese. I am no expert on music boxes.
Little did I know the history of the company.
Thorens music boxes seem to
Thorens starts a firm to make music box movements in
(706) 540-8976, Thorens Music Boxes Combs and
this was some how a cost-cutting move to compete with
1975 Thorens builds its 500,000th record player.".
CONTACT ME WITH MUSIC BOX QUESTIONS!
Click on the cover below: I have made a translation of the
The following cylinder
BTW these Thorens 'pillar-and-plate'
Here at Music Box Attic, we offer a range of musical movements.
picture is below and more info is, Next
An alternative is the Musical Box Society
Many of our movements now sound every bit as good as a Reuge from the golden years. ('Das Ende'--according to one German
on music boxes were the best as this incident put them
movements were produced by Thorens and may be in
There are sources that suggest
in 1967, Thorens had made more than 90,000 of them.
Paillard, his son, Albert, and
Music box movement Swiss Vintage Music box movement Swiss Vintage. 1972:
It Starts with
Musical "Cuckoo clocks" using Thorens movements--picture
movements were produced by Thorens and may be in
Documenting the history
Thursday, 04 December 2008, Budapest--can be found here:
major supplier of spring-driven motors. Sound Bites of the Most Popular 36 Note Movements Many of our customers have asked to …
the height of the back of the two combs.
Advert from the Milwaukee Journal of
this player is here: http://www.thorensad30.com/.
making electric gramophones. 3)
to the Webcam,
the Museum of Music Boxes and Automatons,
I bought a Thorens music box in 1976 when my son graduated from the United Military Academy at West Point. http://radiomuseum.org/m/thorens_ch_en_1.html, http://www.theanalogdept.com/thorens_dept_.htm.
Hermann Thorens: Click on the picture below to
However as the prices of
fall into these categories: 1) Players of metallic discs: a 4.5"
1796. 3 song "J 942725"
----------------------------------, From "Music Boxes: a guide for collectors"--David
These musical mechanisms are ideal for the hobbyist, who wishes to make musical boxes and we also have music box movements …
came acoustic phonographs and gramophones-1903 to
tine and a lower pitch.
with the prototype of a turntable of singularly high
The style is very consistent with many of
Bung, published by Joachim and Angelika Bung, "In 1956, an
this after 2000 calling it a return to Switzerland. Thorens
A few images we were just sent by Reg Smith to show some of
could turn on/off after winding. There are more I could collect,
Click on the image below: Here are two Thorens lighters,
In addition to audio playback …
", Full text--which
article from the St.
mechanical razors, Electric gramophones began in
and Russian record player trade must have been
Journal on January 19, 1944: PLEASE DO NOT
claims that it was made by them in 1925. Ste-Croix.
Thorens Movements These two images show you the workings of the music box which is distinctive of the pre 1930's The section here regarding dating is not completed (or gospel by any means) but with … The following cylinder
'PAL' portables that used Thorens parts shown, sends these pictures
later, the first TD 124 (a, , or turntable,
machine. Some examples are found here: 4) Particularly
harmonica I picked up.
Sainte-Croix became the
the 'collection' (although there was a huge gap
seems to be part of the Carl Lindsröm AG conference
I picked it up around 2004.
out to try and 'document'--in artifacts--some Thorens
If you are looking
I picked up from Quebec around 1999 and the others sent
here: A small
Musical Movements For Music Boxes We offer a range of traditional musical movements (the playing mechanism fitted in to music boxes). drawings from a patent granted in Canada in 1938 for
Riviera mechanical dry shavers.
It's condition is good and is very good … mechanisms in Sainte Croix Switzerland.
Other Classic Turntables
(, http://www.typewriters.ch/collection/HERMES.html, 1995 Thorens continued making turntables and
and in 1904, the Paillard-Gramophone. was Thorens S.A. of Sainte-Croix, and one year
had wooden, hand-carved figures - e.g., Anri - and the
Thorens took over the business.
but it did not have the volume of the older comb with 7 or so broken teeth.
The revolving portion often
the 1940s (overlapping with electrics).
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