Decent for racking up damage, but not exactly easy to land both hits at higher percentages as the opponent can DI out of the first kick. Alternatively, see which of your character's moves are safe on shield (unpunishable). According to the chart, Sheik has 2 losing MUs, one of which is 60-40 and the other 55-45. Sheik top 3 is not impossible in theory, that's somewhere around what Spark thinks right? Soon after, Mango and Hungrybox would take Jigglypuff to the next level, and reveal that it, too, was a very poor matchup for Sheik and possibly her worst. I think at high level then Puff, Fox, Falcon could easily be worse than what the chart says. Log In to add custom notes to this or any other game. Incredibly powerful when sweetspotted, being among the most powerful in the game (2nd strongest next to Pikachu's), but otherwise does moderate knockback when sourspotted. The final draft for Super Smash Bros. Melee at Genesis 4 (Genesis 4) ... and Sheik, so hopefully the team can slot him against these characters. These opinions have proven to be mostly false as those two characters rose up the tier list. Sheik is a very weak hitting character. Not only are they quick to charge, but she can save her needles and continue charging them whenever she is given time t… Sluggish movement speed or slow moves, such as, Vulnerability to chaingrabs and long combos, including characters like, Poor recovery/lack of edgeguarding moves, such as, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 11/98, Considering her appearance in the Japanese version of the game, Sheik is the only, Ironically, despite not being ranked 1st and having a slightly worse matchup spread than. Sheik is also still able to grab, so he can’t armor through that. ; Dropping your shield (Shield Drop) takes 11 frames Fox Falco Jigglypuff Captain Falcon Tier lists undergo multiple changes to appeal the new demo updates or changes of the metagame. She still wins those matchups by a fair margin due to her much simpler and more guaranteed combos, as well as more tangible rewards off her grounded moves that are easier to look for in neutral than either Pikachu's or Yoshi's combo starters. And so Sheik’s evenly distributed, positive matchup spread, and her advantages over Peach and Falcon, put her over the very slightly over Peach. She doesn't have a chain grab on him, but doc can chain grab sheik from 0-67. The number of needles thrown in Needle Storm is based on how long you hold the B Button before releasing it. Sheik also has the means to force edgeguarding situations very easily, possessing a back throw that sets up edgeguards on fastfallers, and the speed to effectively corner opponents once they're close to the ledge. However, she still retains her powerful air game, punish game, and excellent combo ability despite her down throw nerf. Match avg. Announced at E3 2001, Sheik (シーク, Sheik) is a starter character in Super Smash Bros. Melee. The tier list is a list that ranks all characters in a certain game in order of their potential to win under tournament conditions, assuming equal skill on the part of each player, based on analysis of the current metagame. Short range, but launches the foe directly up, leaving them open for aerial combos. Outside of those Cali Sheiks, it would seem to heavily sway in high level opinion that it's at worst even with almost every top 100 sheik opting to use another character for the matchup (M2K/Swedish/Shroomed/Plup/Drephen..kinda). Kirby's light weight allows Fox to kill incredibly quickly while Luigi struggles approaching characters with priority and high range. Down-smashing on shield after a float cancel (FC) forward air (f-air) This is a very common mistake for Peach mains in general. This is due primarily to the changes to her down throw, which caused Sheik to lose her chaingrab, some tech-chasing options, and several KO setups. iBDW comments on the evolution of the Fox matchup in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Can chain grab the space animals at high percentages. This is easier to do against characters with even worse neutral games, particularly low- and bottom-tier characters, as they lack the means to zone Sheik out of that ideal area. Maybe they won’t reach 50:50, but the matchups are certainly heading in that direction. We’ve been on a brief hiatus and I know that we’re all itching to bring more analysis content out there. Sheik's needles are arguably one of the best projectiles in the game. Raises her arms over her head, then quickly brings them down to her sides. Captain Falcon and Peach are also strong characters. Sheik is a very agile fighter, possessing a fast dash, high falling speed, good jumping prowess, and very quick, combo-friendly attacks. Sheik's dominance as a character was cut short with the discovery of the incredible potential of Fox and Falco. A competitive Melee focused extension of the reddit Super Smash Brothers community. See the most recent SSBU tier lists or make your own Smash tier list. In the PAL version, the attack's knockback is considerably reduced, making it a better attack for comboing. If you Egg Lay the back-up climber, it's stuck in the egg for a little while, since it doesn't mash. Upcoming Smashes. Videos. Super Smash Flash 2's tier lists have been elaborated since demo v0.6. Overall, Sheik is a solid character with the tools to combat every other fighter in Melee. These changes make some of Sheik's winning matchups in NTSC much harder. Icies, Marth and Falco also have an argument for being harder than the chart too. We contacted Jason “Anti” Bates, a top level everybody main, to see what he thought of Reech’s matchup chart. Find counterpicks, good matchups, and bad matchups. Tier List / Matchup Chart. — The weighted average score of the match-up. Your a matchstick bitch how loves bondage and punishment. (Maybe 60-40?) 100% (3 - 0) 100% (1 - 0) 72.5% (37 - 14) 71.4% (5 - 2) 71.4% (15 - 6) 68.5% (50 - 23) 65.9% (60 - 31) … Here’s how his 2019 Melee tier list looks. Find counterpicks, good matchups, and bad matchups. iBDW comments on the evolution of the Fox matchup in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Same deal with Fox. Submit. For example, in NTSC, Sheik could KO Marth, Peach, and sometimes Jigglypuff reliably with down throw to forward or up aerial. There are comments below each tier list for discussion. Can be done repeatedly, and is very fast. Players such as Plup and Swedish Delight continue to push her capabilities, incorporating shield dropping and more robust platform movement to keep up with the evolving metagame. At the time that the matchup chart was made, Pikachu and Yoshi were considered low-tiered characters that Sheik easily won against due to her chaingrab, perceived back then to go up to 90% and lead into a guaranteed KO. PGstats is proud to present the latest Melee ranking, #MPGR2019, in concert with Red Bull!The #MPGR2019 ranking season spans the end of 2018 … Sheik is also notable for having among the best punishing abilities in the game. She used to be first on the Melee tier list until the eighth version of it, where Fox took top spot, and has continued to hold it. Looking at the data for just players within the top 100 of the SSBM Rank 2016, Captain Falcon remains the best match-up for Sheik players. I’ve been playing Melee competitively since the summer of 2007, and I have been a Marth main for about six years (I was a Marth main from the beginning, but I gravitated more towards Fox/Falco for about a year and a half from 2008 – 2009). Sheik must, however, still deal with Marth's range and more effective neutral game and Peach's edgeguarding and Vegetable projectiles. Smash Bros. Ultimate tier lists and tier list templates. SSB Matchup Chart Maker. Yoshi holds the world record for Co-op Target Smash!! Needles also have high hitstun and low knockback, making them excellent for intercepting recoveries, especially more linear options such as Fire Fox. RIP. Compared to her Zelda form, Sheik is nimble and has gorgeous moves, but she lacks a strong knockout attack. Along with the nerfs to her finishers, Sheik generally has a much harder time KOing characters that she had no trouble KOing in the NTSC version, such as Peach and Marth, resulting in much poorer matchups against them. Sheik Matchup Knowledge. However, this becomes more of a problem against Sheik because of her great shield. Zelda has some techniques with more punch, however, so in one-on-one battles, use Transform as needed. Tier List / Matchup Chart. If you are at CC percents and they uptilt you, spam grab while holding down. duomeleethoughts Uncategorized June 18, 2018 1 Minute. Despite perceived notions about his character, aMSa saw a modest amount of success. Sheik has one of the best matchup spreads in the game. Her up aerial was weakened, making it more of a juggling move than a KO move, and her down throw, which boasted a chaingrab on much of the cast in NTSC and gave Sheik follow-up options, now has a much more horizontal launch angle, removing those guaranteed chaingrabs and follow-ups. They struggle heavily against small and quick characters; namely, Pikachu, Pichu, and Squirtle. votes — Total number of votes this match-up has received. Ultimate . 1 ... Hay look the pedifile from melee were he likes children sizing his dick. Sheik is a very fast character in both movement and attack speed, but her attacks lack power and are vulnerable to being crouch cancelled. Sheik's specials didn't undergo quite as drastic of changes than some of her other moves, but there are changes worth noting. leffen believes marth-fox is as bad as sheik-pikachu, sheik-samus, sheik-luigi, and sheik-doc lol, edit: AND he believes sheiks does better vs fox than fox does vs marth lol. Cale Michael . If you are new here, please do not feel overwhelmed! Get out of shield punishes for all moves and matchups in Smash Melee. Sheik is featured in the following event matches: Sheik and Zelda share ending images for the one-player modes, as well as the same cinematic; clearing the mode with one also gives the player both of their trophies. In PAL, however, not only does down throw send those characters too far at KO percentages, up aerial is no longer a reliable KO move until much higher percents. While Needle Storm has no landing lag when used in midair, it does have significant ending lag when used on the ground; however, Sheik's needles will only travel straight if she throws them while grounded, impairing her ability to approach with her projectile from afar. Strategically switching between Zelda and Sheik is key. He finished as the 77th best player in the world for the first edition of SSBMRank in 2013. Sheik is a character ... to combos and juggles from his Smash Bros. Melee days due to his size. Download the game guide 'Zelda and Sheik: The Ulimate Battlers' for Super Smash Bros. Melee on GameCube (GameCube) (58604) Despite how good Leffen is, his Sheik is still in it's infancy stages and he hasn't really had that super high level experience across some of the weirder matchups that aren't Marth, Fox, Falco, and Puff (which is weird to say considering his dominant performance against Europe in netplay tournaments). Cookies help us deliver our Services. After the discussion is up, the involved Yoshi players then go to the Table of Contents ↑ The Melee Library. For Super Smash Bros. Melee on the GameCube, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "r/SSBM and the new "relevant" matchup chart". According to the chart, Sheik has 2 losing MUs, one of which is 60-40 and the other 55-45. In some situations where Sheik cannot recover at all, Sheik may be forced to transform and use Zelda's superior recovery, this is not without its risks however, as Zelda is much less viable in top level play, which is where Sheik performs. Tier List / Matchup Chart. For nearly 5 years (March 2010 - March 2015), Sheik was ranked 2nd on the PAL tier list, higher than she was in NTSC during that time span. Super Smash Bros Melee Tier List 2019 by Armada. Using a variation of the name of the ancient Sheikah tribe, she appears before Link and teaches him melodies instrumental to his success. votes — Total number of votes this match-up has received. It's believed that she's not just a quick-change artist, but rather that she is able to instantaneously alter her clothing and her eye and skin color by using her magical skills. See the win percentage for Sheik vs every character matchup in Smash 4. Yoshi's ability to incapacitate a climber with Neutral B (Egg Lay) is incredibly powerful at destroying the climbers. It would be a much more convincing argument if either of them had a better showing against someone like ChuDat who historically has one of the most dominant records against Sheik among the entire cast (can't remember the last time he lost to Sheik in bracket). Sheik has always been a high/top tier character, similar to Fox and Falco. This page was last edited on November 29, 2020, at 13:41. Before we get into the tier list, let’s create a foundation for it. Throws her opponent behind and kicks them away. Only thing that really sticks out as weird is Sheik beating wobbling ICs, altho I know this is a semi-contentious topic (Spark and Faceroll think Sheik wins; H2H records suggest otherwise). Gets on her back and does a break-dance style rotation. However, even as Marth vs. Sheik may be approaching a 50:50, so does Sheik vs. Ice Climbers, in my opinion. Super Smash Bros.: # = % chance of winning against opponent. Screengrab via Steam. Sitemap. SSBMRank is an annual ranking of the top 100 Super Smash Bros. Melee players previously conducted by Melee It On Me, and now conducted by the PG stats team. With proper DI and port considerations, the chaingrab rarely deals more than 40-50%, with many opportunities to escape it. In fact, at some points, players believed Sheik was so good that they contemplated banning her, although such a ban was never carried out. Reech has since deleted his twitter account in shame. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. But it's REALLY REALLY REALLY hard to get there. Like other characters, Sheik has received some changes in the PAL version of Melee, which nerfed her overall. As such, high-level Sheik players will often look for openings to close distance and go into that "threat zone," a spacing where Sheik can threaten the opponent with her outstanding punish game. Upcoming Smashes. The opposite development is true for her matchup against Peach, as Peach's punishes and edgeguarding in the matchup are now considered significantly stronger. The. Major Tournaments feature a large prize pool and a good number of top-tier players. One of Sheik's more universal weaknesses is her poor, predictable recovery. Sheik-Fox and Peach-Puff jumped out at me due to both their well-formedness and their relatively tame matchup ratios. In Melee, Kirby is hard countered by Fox and Marth hard counters Luigi. S Tier – Jigglypuff, Fox, Marth. The highest and lowest scores for each player is removed, then the … A mac is required to make the app. This section will be expanded regularly as I continue to play Marth and gain relevant matchup … Woah, surprising he thinks Sheik still beats ICs with wobbling. In fact, Sheik’s win-rate goes up by about 9%, which is the largest performance jump within her data set. sheik fox is like fox marth except there are TWO counterpicks (stadium and fd) that are autowins for one character. A quick spin kick forward. This is the weakest point, of course, since this is a highly debatable assertion and it's not always clear which matches are valuable since everybody's matchup chart is a little different. Sheik herself can only be fought if the opponent is Zelda; animations left on the disc, however, suggest that she could have immediately began matches against the player, instead of having to wait for Zelda to transform. Your vote — How you voted this match. Sheik, due to chain grabs, also hard counters various characters. Sheik. Tot. Sheik. A downwards kick with long ending lag. Sheik, however, has poor air speed(tied for 5th worst among the cast) and a rather high short hop. Sheik is a very agile fighter, possessing a fast dash, high falling speed, good jumping prowess, and very quick, combo-friendly attacks. Throws opponent on the ground, then performs an axe-kick, knocking the opponent up into the air. Excellent juggling due to little ending lag, sends opponents up and behind her. I’m not sure about that. However, over time, competitive players slowly became privy to Sheik's weaknesses, leading to growing matchup problems that would continue to plague her players into the present day. Due to this, and opinions on Marth improving further due to his better matchups against Fox and Falco, Sheik dropped to 4th in the twelfth and current tier list (as of December 2015). Anytime i see that MU I feel like the Sheik pretty much has to play perfectly and patiently. Fox is just getting slashed apart. Due to their low lag and high power, most are of relatively low-risk to use off the edge. While only a portion of her moveset can reliably KO to compensate for her speed, such options are very reliable combo finishers at most percentages, greatly offsetting her power loss. Although she has fallen from dominance, with some even arguing that she should be lower, Sheik remains one of the best and most consistent characters in the game. She is a very punish- and control-based character, relying on her excellent comboing abilities to rack up damage and force edgeguarding situations where she can intercept the foe for quick gimp KOs. She is soft countered by three characters, has one even matchup, soft counters six characters, counters five, and hard counters ten. While only a portion of her moveset can reliably KO to compensate for her speed, such options are very reliable combo finishers at most percentages, greatly offsetting her power loss. The Super Smash Bros Ultimate tier list is a hotly debated topic amongst the fighting game community. Shakes her hand in front of her face, then swings it to the side. It’s been roughly two years since the last major updates to the Melee tier list and I wanted to give some of my thoughts on the 2017 metagame. I think those characters are pretty much inarguably better than Sheik no matter how you look at it, and there’s an argument for Falco above Sheik as well, but Falco’s MU spread is so unclear that I won’t get into that. In All-Star Mode, Zelda/Sheik and her allies are fought on the Temple stage. Slowly gets up and thrusts out her elbow. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. Launches her opponent forward with low horizontal knockback and hitstun. Despite her high midair jump and fast aerial attacks that can aggravate edgeguarders, Vanish does not give significant vertical or horizontal distance, and when she reappears, there is no offensive hitbox, allowing easy edgeguarding. + Add a Matchup Chart; Support Us ️; Player Database; Characters; Blog; Tournaments; Login with Twitter; Sheik Matchups. These PAL Sheik players were very successful at that stage of the metagame, even moreso than NTSC Sheik players, arguably because they developed stronger fundamentals (with less of a reliance on grabs) to overcome their more difficult punish game. It costs $100 a year for the privilege to post an app on the Apple Store. Although, it may not matter considering he'll just go for Fox for those weirder matchups since his Sheik was developed exclusively as a Marth counterpick. Highlighted tournaments represent Premier Tournaments, which offer an outstanding prize pool and feature the best players from all over the world. Bowser - 9.2 Worst Match. Our online reporters are currently tracing his IP address and Reech will soon be mocked publicly for this behavior. Overall, this is the best of Sheik's throws because it can reliably chain grab or tech chase many characters to high percentages, with a reliable KO option being a u-smash. With three bad matchups at the top level to now deal with, which only grew more difficult as time passed, Sheik was no longer considered even a contender for the best in the game. Melee This is the latest and most widely-accepted smash tier list for Super Smash Bros. Melee from Nintendo GameCube, produced by the Smash 64 community and last updated on December 10th, 2015. Everything else in the matchup plays roughly the same regardless of version. If you are new here, please do not feel … Super Smash Bros. Super Smash Bros.: # = % chance of winning against opponent. The best place for a player to learn and improve. Puff probably has one losing MU, which is at worst 60-40. 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